Bawa The On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library (Recommended way to Navigate around Library) Spiritual Chat 412 ---------- "E-mail Version" ------- About Spiritual Chat 412 "Why Are You Still "Not Doing" What You Already Know That You "Should Be Doing", In Order To Become Truly Successful In Your Lifetime, But For Some Reason, Are Still "Not Doing" It, Or What Is Separating You From God Within You, From Your Brothers And Sisters, And From The Creation of God Within You, For In Truth, It Is All The Same, It Is What Supports A Life of "Separation From", Both Within You, And For A Little While, On The Illusory "Outside" of You, And Rejects And Is Alien To A Life of "Oneness With", Also Both Within You, And For A Little While, On The Illusory "Outside" of You". . Date of Chat: March 09, 2007, on Friday Evening, after Jummah Prayers Chat Between: Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren) and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler), at the "Feet of God" for "Your Age" Page 1 of 1 ============================================================== Main Go To: Status Go To: Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 412-------------------------------------- Available "Expanded Title" - of Spiritual Chat 412 Go To: A Short Overview - of Spiritual Chat 412 ---------------------------- Available Go To: E-mail Version - of Spiritual Chat 412 ---------------------------------- Available "Beginning of Spiritual Chat" - up to "Short Overview Part" "Short Overview Part" - of Spiritual Chat 412 "Rest of Spiritual Chat" - after the "Short Overview Part" Go To: Related Material - for Spiritual Chat 412 ------------------------------ Available ============================================================== Home Page - Spiritual Chats Go To Spiritual Chat 413 Chat 412: E-mail Alert Library Home Page Go To Spiritual Chat 411 Chat 412: Other Stuff ============================================================== A Short Overview - of Spiritual Chat 412 [Note: To read a complete copy of the "Text" of "Spiritual Chat 412" please click on the following: "E-mail Version" of Spiritual Chat 412. Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Please tell this child what he should be doing to demonstrate this to God within me. Bawa. That is, for me to demonstrate to God within me, that "The Only Correct Answer of My Life", is, "The Only Correct Answer of My Life" "Is me first learning to become a True Disciple or Devote of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me, is me first learning to correctly serve Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me, is me first learning to truly surrender and immerse myself within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me. Amen" MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Both are important, that is, both Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and Bawa within Him, who in truth is now God within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) now on the "outside" of you. Bawa. But both have a different role to play, that is, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, both have a different role to play in your demonstrating what you have to demonstrate to God within you. Bawa. That is, with you demonstrating that you only love and trust God within you, and as such, that you are now worthy of a place within the 73rd Group within you, the Group within you who only love and trust in God within you, and no longer love or trust in the world on the "outside" of you. Bawa. And in this way, with you demonstrating that you no longer love and trust in the world on the "outside" of you, and as such, that you are now no longer a willing member of the 71st and the 72nd Groups within you, the Group within you who try to have both, both God and the world, and who say in their ignorance and in their arrogance about their ignorance that they love and trust in both, in both the world on the "outside" of them, and in God within them, but in truth what they say is a lie, for in truth they just want the world, but they are afraid to admit it, fearing the consequences after death of such a position, so in a way, they hedge their bet, and claim belief in both, not wanting to give up the world on the illusory "outside" of themselves. Bawa. In this way, one works from within you, that is, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and God within Him, which you activate through your faith and trust in God within you, and the other works on the "outside" of you, that is, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, which you activate through your actions, that is, by, "You first learning to become a True Disciple or Devotee of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, by you first learning to correctly serve Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, by you first learning to truly surrender and immerse yourself within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you. Amen" Bawa. That is, by you treating Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) on the "outside" of you as you would treat God living on the "outside" of you, which in truth is the same way that this child treated Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of him, when "We" were living as Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you. Bawa. And this is why he has now truly become "Our" dearest loving Son, both within "Us" as Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and each of My Children, and for a little while, he has also become your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, if you like, for to accept him now as such, for your age and for your life, is most certainly your Choice, not "Our Choice", and not "God's Choice" within "Us". Ok? Bawa. So now you and My Children must do the same, as this child did before, and treat Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you as now God on the "outside" of you, demonstrating this by your actions, not just by your words. Bawa. And in this way, by you and My Children truly demonstrating your faith and trust in God within you, who is now Bawa within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, by you and My Children demonstrating your faith and trust in God within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, and within yourself, and within all of your brothers and sisters. Bawa. So Stop trying to treat Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "inside" of you through your actions, and instead treat Him with your faith and trust in God within you, that is, as now God within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both within you, and for a little while on the "outside" of you, and shift your actions to treating Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) on the "outside" of you, as now God on the "outside" of you. Bawa. In this way, demonstrating to him, to Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, and to Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within Him, and to God within Him, through your actions, not just by your words, that you believe that God is now on the "outside" of you, as "The Gift of God" for your age, and for your life, in order for you and My Children to truly demonstrate this truth to God within you, by truly treating him as such, on the "outside" of you, that is, as God on the "outside" of you. Bawa. That is, demonstrating this to God within you, this truth of your life, through this "Gift of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, demonstrating this truth of your life, day in and day out, moment by moment, for the rest of your life, through your relationship with Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, that in truth "you don't exist", demonstrating that in truth "Only God exists", both within you and for a little while on the "outside" of you. Bawa. That is, in truth "Only God exists" now as Bawa or God within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased within Him) within you, and now on the "outside" of you, as Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, all of which in truth is now "your only proper life" on the "outside" of you, all of which is now "your only proper doing" on the "outside" of you, which is now "your only proper words, or thoughts, or belief" on the "outside" of you. Bawa. With you demonstrating in this way to Bawa or God now within you, within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both within you and for a little while on the "outside" of you, that in truth "Only God exists", both within you, and for a little while, now also on the "outside" of you. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, Ok. Bawa. In what ways does this child demonstrate to Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me and to God within Him that I truly believe that God is now on the "outside" of me as "The Gift of God" for this age, and for my life, to truly demonstrate this truth to God within me, through this "Gift of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me. Bawa. That is, other than by joining with Him in these sharings every day, or as near to every day as we can "get together" for these sharings. And other than greeting and meeting with Him at our Primal House, the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship, as often as we can? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. A very good question Grasshopper. Bawa. But first "You" answer that question. Ok? That would be much better. Bawa. So say Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim, and then the word "Bawa", which in truth is the "Name of God" for your age, placing your faith and trust in God within you, and that what "We" shared tonight is in truth "God Speaking" to you, and to all of My Children, from within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both within you, and for a little while on the "outside" of you, and then "Start to write", and let God answer your question, from within you, as you have now learned to do. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Ok, Bawa. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. My Children can demonstrate their faith in My Gift of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen on the "outside" of them by trusting and believing that what He says is in Truth what I am saying to them but which they cannot hear because they have not yet developed their inner ear that can hear My Words. Bawa. They must trust in Him and accept Him as My Child and as My Gift to them in this time of their lives. They must join with him as often as they can and listen to him with all the love they have in their hearts for Me. Bawa. For they must know that until they can see Me within themselves they must see him on the outside of them as My Gift to them and treat him as they would treat Me. Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes, Yes, Yes. Do it like that Grasshopper. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen, we will do it like that. Amen. ============================================================== Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 412 "Opening Greetings" - from Heart to Heart Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Bawa. Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. Wa 'alaykum al-salam wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be please with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu), dearest loving GrandChildren, Sons and Daughters, and brothers and sisters, and all of My Children - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. "About Spiritual Chat 412" Bawa. Here is Page 1 of 1 of an E-mail Version of "Spiritual Chat 412", another beautiful Spiritual Chat between "Our" dearest loving Son Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren) and "Our" dearest loving Son Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler), at the "Feet of God" for your age, at the feet of your dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), for the age of the "Justice of Conscience", where "Who you are?" is now "What is within you", no longer "What is on the outside of you" as most of My Children still mistakenly believe. Bawa. We have given this Sharing the following "Short Title", "Why Are You Still "Not Doing" What You Already Know That You "Should Be Doing", In Order To Become Truly Successful In Your Lifetime, But For Some Reason, Are Still "Not Doing" It, Or What Is Separating You From God Within You, From Your Brothers And Sisters, And From The Creation of God Within You, For In Truth, It Is All The Same, It Is What Supports A Life of "Separation From", Both Within You, And For A Little While, On The Illusory "Outside" of You, And Rejects And Is Alien To A Life of "Oneness With", Also Both Within You, And For A Little While, On The Illusory "Outside" of You". Bawa. And we have given this Sharing the following "Expanded Title", to better reflect the multiple focus of this sharing, at the "Feet of God" for your age, which in truth is the feet of your dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and of God within Him, and now on the "outside" of you, at the feet of His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), which in truth is each of you living in this age, if you like, for in truth the Choice is yours, not God's. Bawa. That is, if the true intention for your life within you, for your soul life, is to again become "One with" God within you, before you die to the flesh in your current state within you, that is, in our current state of living a life of "separation and differences" on the illusory "outside" of us, as if you are "separate from" God within you, as if you are "separate from" each other within you, and as if you are "separate from' the Creation of God within you, all of which is "Just Not True". Expanded Title of Spiritual Chat 412 Between: Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Ral.) And Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), on 03-09-07 "Join As "One With" Us Within You, And As "One With" God Within "Us", To Realize That Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (May God Be Pleased With Him) Is Now God Within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (May God Be Pleased With Him) Both Within You, And For A Little While On The "Outside" Of You, And That The Focus Of Your Effort And of Your Love And Trust In God Within You, Should Now Be Directed Toward Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (May God Be Pleased With Him) On The "Outside" Of You, To Demonstrate To God Within You, That You Love And Trust Only In God Within You, And No Longer Love And Trust The World "Outside" Of You, And That Now, You Are Worthy Of Becoming A Member Of The 73rd Group Within You, Who Love And Trust Only In God Within You, And Are No Longer Freely Engaged As A Member Of Either The 71st Or The 72nd Groups Within You, Who Openly Love And Trust In The World And Also Say "You Love And Trust In God", But All of Which Is Just A Lie Because You Fear God And Your Death, And The Loss Of The World On The "Outside" Of You, And Rightly So, For In Truth "The Beast" Is Just Waiting To Harvest You, As "His Crop" And As "His Property" In The End, And Drag You Yelling And Screaming To Hell Within You, To An Eternal Life Within You As "Separate From" God Within You, That Is, If You Don't First Wise Up, Because "That Is What You Truly Want". Amen. Ok?" Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. ============================================================== Related Material - to Spiritual Chat 412 Bawa. For more on these wisdom points, and the great significance of this Spiritual Chat to all of My Children, please click on the "Title" of the Following Material, all of which is also provided as part of the On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library (www.Bawa. homestead.com), under the Home Page Names of "Spiritual Chats" (www.Spiritual Chats.homestead.com), and "Spiritual Letters" (www.SpiritualLetters.homestead.com) all of which in truth is from God within all of My Children, to the Children of God for your age, if you like: Spiritual Letters: Home Page (www.SpiritualLetters.homestead.com) [Note: The format for the URL or Web Page Address for each Spiritual Letter is www.SpiritualLetterXXX.homestead.com] Spiritual Letter 125 ... "How God" Completes "His What", Using "His Discarded" Which In Truth "Is You" --------------------------------- Feb., 07 Spiritual Letter 124 ... "A Fate That In The End, Is Your Ending (In Process) "Because You Want It" ---------------------------------- Feb., 07 Spiritual Letter 123 ... "Shift Your Focus, Off of "What You Have To Do (In Process) And Onto "What You Don't Have To Do" --------- Feb., 07 Spiritual Letter 122 ... "God Doesn't Create People, People Create People, But Only God Can Truly Destroy People" -------- Feb., 07 Spiritual Letter 121 ... "Understanding The "One Life" Within God Within You, While You Still Can" -- Feb., 07 Spiritual Letter 120 ... "Watch Out! The Beast Is Coming! And It Is As Huge As A Mountain" ----------------- Feb., 07 Spiritual Letter 119 ... "Fall Into The "Fire of God" For Your Age And For Your Life, Which Is "Your Oneness", Before You Die To The Flesh ------------------------- Feb., 07 Spiritual Letter 118 ... "Stop What Your Doing - Before "The Beast" Has His Way With You -- Jan., 07 Spiritual Letter 117 ... "There Is Nothing On The "Outside" of You" - What to do? ----------------------------------------------- Jan., 07 Spiritual Letter 116 ... "Become The "Good Grasshopper", The Calming Influence, Focused On God Within You, and Save The World -------------------------------------- Jan., 07 Spiritual Letter 115 ... "The "True Call To Islam" For Your Life, And For Your Age, If You Like" ---------------------- Jan., 07 Spiritual Letter 114 ... "Declare Islam Again, And Storm The Kabah Again While You Still Can"-------------------------------------- Jan., 07 Spiritual Letter 113 ... Letter To: Ahmad Khabir (Ken Hahn), All of My Children "O God, Give Me What You Give My Guru, Especially What You Cannot Physically Give My Guru, Including A Share of All The Physical Suffering And Difficulties In The World of His Children, Who Have Now Become My Children. Amen, Amen, Amen Ya Rabil Alameen. Amen, Amen, Amen Ya Rahman Alameen. Amen, Amen, Amen Ya Rahim Alameen. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar" ----------------------------- Jan., 07" Spiritual Letter 112 ... Letter To: Muhammad Muhainaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren), and to his wife Angela, And to All of My Children "The True Name of The Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) Is My Name, Is Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), And Their True Reality Is My Story, The Story of The "Oneness of God and True Man", That God Is Telling Within Each of My Children, If You Will Only Let Him, If You Will Only Join Him, As "One With" Him. Amen" -------------------------- Jan., 07" Spiritual Letter 111 ... Letter To: Muhammad Muhainaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren), and to his wife Angela, And to All of My Children "Stop Acting Like You are Doing It, Instead Do It Or Don't Do It, One Or The Other, For All That Your Acting Is Doing, All That Your Hypocrisy Is Doing, Is Just Destroying The Children Who Could Do It" ---------------------------------- Dec., 06" Spiritual Letter 110 ... Letter To: Muhammad Muhainaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren), and to his wife Angela, And to All of My Children "Everything Will Happen As "You Intend", When "you stop intending", As If You Are "Separate From" God Within You, That Is, When You Join In Partnership With God Within You, To "Make God's Intention" Your Search, And Then Start "Intending As God Intends" ------------------- Dec., 06" Spiritual Letter 109 ... Letter To: David Fedderman And His Wife and to All of My Children "Stop Publishing What "Bawa Said", And Instead Become What "Bawa Is Saying", That Is, Instead Join In Partnership With God Within You To Let God Speak From Within You, For The Benefit of All of The Creation of God, Both Within You, And For A Little While On the Outside of You" ------------------------- Nov., 06" Spiritual Letter 108 ... Letter To: Muhammad Muhainaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren), and to All of My Children "You Too "Can Fly", If You Like, All You Have To Do, Is Do It, And Then God Will Do Everything Else, If You Like, For The Choice Is Yours, Not God'" -------- Nov., 06" Spiritual Letter 107 ... Letter To: Ummul Khair Muhaiyaddeen (Rumi Smith), and to All of My Children "The "Extraordinary Process of God" You Must Understand" ----------------------- Nov., 06" Spiritual Letter 106 ... Letter To: Muhammad Hussain (John Barnett), and to All of My Children "Stop Acting As My Children, and Start Acting as Me" ---------------------- Nov., 06" Spiritual Chats: Home Page (www.SpiritualChats.homestead.com) [Note: The format for the URL or Web Page Address for each Spiritual Chat is www.SpiritualChatXXX.homestead.com] Spiritual Chat 409 .. "The "Only Correct Answer" For Your Life To The "Only Correct Question" For Your Life Is "You" Learning To Becoming A True Disciple Of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) ................... Feb., 07 Spiritual Chat 404 .. "God Created The Darkness To Reject The Light, And The Falsehood To Reject The Truth, And God Created Iman to Accept the Light ..... Feb., 07 Spiritual Chat 392 .. "Only A Child Can Be Raised, Not An Adult, So Become The Guru's Child, Then He Can Raise You To Become Him ...... Jan., 07 Spiritual Chat 383 .. "Only God Is Valuable On The "Path of God", - In Process - Not What God Has Discarded" ..................... Jan., 2007 Spiritual Chat 369 .. "Balance God Within - In Process - And God On The "Outside" .......................... Dec., 2006 Spiritual Chat 368 .. "Use The Guru On The "Outside" of You - In Process - To Learn How To "Reason Over Your Fate", That is, How to Remove From You Everything "Separating You" From "The Triple Flame" of God Within You, That Is, From The Guru Within You, From God Within The Guru, And From The True Disciple Hidden Within God" .... Dec., 2006 Spiritual Chat 367 .. "Accepting What God Gives You Is Your Plenitude, Which In Truth Is Everything That You Are Given, No Matter What, No Matter What You May Think It Is, Or Who Gave It To You, That is, In Your Ignorance And In Your Arrogance About Your Ignorance" .......... Dec., 2006 Spiritual Chat 366 .. "Become The Triple Flame Within You, Before It Is Too Late Or Become A Worm In Hell Within You, For There Is No Other Choice, And The Choice Is Yours, Not God's, And It Is All Within You, Not "Outside" of You, As My Children Still Mistakenly Believe" ........ Dec., 2006 Spiritual Chat 363 .. "Hand God Back To God Within You, By Letting God Cure Himself of You" Before You Die To The Flesh" ..................... Nov., 2006 Spiritual Chat 362 .. "About the "Arrogance of Man" And the "Oneness of God" ......................... Nov., 2006 Spiritual Chat 361 .. "Your Life Is The Ultimate Self-Fulfilling Prophesy, That Is, "Whatever You Intend Is what You Will Receive" ...................... Nov., 2006 Spiritual Chat 360 .. "The Silent Zikr is God Speaking From Within You, Not You Trying To Be Silent On The Outside of You" ........................ Nov., 2006 Spiritual Chat 359 .. "The Duty That Is Greater Than God, Is The Duty That You Let God Do Within You, Before You Die To The Flesh ................. Nov., 2006 Spiritual Chat 358 .. "Louie Meets The Angel of Death (A.S.)", Or "Life Is The Victory of Wisdom Reasoning Over Fate" .......... Nov., 2006 Spiritual Chat 349 .. "How To Establish "The Presence of God" Within You", Or "Who You Are Is What Bawa Is Doing Within You", Or "Join In Partnership With God Within You, To Truly Accept The Truth Of "Your" Life, And The Truth Of The "Life Within Your Life", That In Truth "Who You Are" Is "What Is Within You", And "What Is Within You" Is What "Bawa Is Doing" Within God Within You" ............................... Oct., 2006 Spiritual Chat 347 .. "The Meaning of Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim," Or, "Join In Partnership With God Within You To Remember To Keep Focused At All Times On "What God Is Doing" Within You At All Times, With What Is "Within God" Within You, That Is, If You Will Only Let Him" .............................. Oct., 2006 ) Spiritual Chat 275 .. "God Has Already Given You Everything, So Your Work Is To Join With God Within You, To Correctly Use What You Already Have, Not Mistakenly Ask For Something More or New" .............................. June., 2006 Spiritual Chat 274 .. "God Says To You Within You, 'Catch Me If You Can'" .................................. June., 2006 Spiritual Chat 271 .. "Stop Leading Us To Hell Within You,. Instead, Step Back, Let God Step Forward and Embrace Us Within You" ............... June., 2006 Spiritual Chat 265 .. "Use God Within You To Get To God Within You,. Not What God Has Discarded Within You, Which In Truth Is The Outside of You" .... June., 2006 Spiritual Chat 264 .. "Become Like Me. Become Like Me. Become Like Me" ...................................... June., 2006 Spiritual Chat 247 .. "Learning How to Become Alone, Hungry, and Awake, Before You Set Out To Pray" ........................ Feb., 2006 Spiritual Chat 246 .. "Letting God Speak To His Children, Telling You That 'You Too Can Fly, If You Like'" ................Feb., 2006 Spiritual Chat 216 .. The True Question of Your Life Is, "What Have You Told God Within You That You Want For Eternity, By The Way That You Are Currently Living Your Life On The "Outside" of You? ..............................Sept., 2005 For More: Go To: Home Page - Spiritual Chats (www.SpiritualChats.homestead.com) (www.SpiritualLetters.homestead.com) Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). ============================================================== E-mail Version - of Spiritual Letter 412 "Beginning of Spiritual Chat" MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the Name of God, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate. Bawa. Al-salam 'alaykum My dearest loving Father Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with You, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. My love you - Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the Name of God, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate. Bawa. Wa 'alaykum al-salam My dearest loving Son and Daughter Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with You, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us. Amen. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. May we begin with "Our Prescribed Prayers"? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes, that would be good. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. We are back, having finished our prescribed prayers, joining together as One with Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) who is as One with our Father Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) and with God within Him, so that He might speak and tell us "What We Do Not Know." MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Ok, but who within you would say that? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Only one who sees himself as separate from Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) and separate from Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.,) and separate from God within Him. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. In that case, what would be a better question to ask, one asked by that within you which does not see "Himself as separate from Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) and separate from Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) and separate from God within Him". Bawa. That is, a question that gets right at the heart of the matter, as they say. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Oh God, what do You have to share with My Children for the benefit of all My Children? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. No, what wisdom would focus on is "not something new", which is the mantra of your mind and desire within you, but rather on "what you already know", on what you already know that you should be doing, but for some reason, are not doing, and why. Bawa. That is, why are you not doing what you already know that you should be doing, in order to become truly successful in your lifetime? Bawa. And that is the difference between a question asked by your mind and desire and a question asked by your wisdom, one is just endlessly "talking the walk", and wants to keep things "as they are", while talking about change, while the other really wants to solve the problems in your life that prevent you from "walking the walk", and is not interested in "The talk", because it realizes that until you do, until you focus on "What you are not doing, that you know you should do, but are not doing", Nothing Will Change in your life, and that is for sure. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. So what is the answer to Your question, "In that case, what would be a better question to ask, one asked by that within you which does not see "Himself as separate from Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen and separate from Bawa Muhaiyaddeen and separate from God within Him". "A question that gets right at the heart of the matter, as they say." Bawa. For this child does not know. Please tell me what question that should be asked. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. That is very simple, a question that "We" have answered you over and over again for you, from this perspective, and from that perspective, for the last 7 months, with you each time agreeing that Yes, that is the "Only Correct Question", and Yes, that is the "Only Correct Answer", like "We" laid out for you in detail in "Spiritual Chat 409". Bawa. For example, "What have you done today to move forward the "Only Correct What of God" using the "Only Correct How of God", again as explained in detail in Bawa. Again, for example, "What have you done today to implement "The Only Correct Answer of Your Life", for the "Only Correct Question of Your Life", that you agreed to as such, in "Spiritual Chat 409" (www.SpiritualChat409.homestead.com), which is," "The Only Correct Answer of Your Life" "Is you first learning to becoming a True Disciple or Devote of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, is you first learning how to correctly serve Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, is you first learning to truly surrender and immerse yourself within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you. Amen". MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, once again we have forgotten the only correct question and the only correct answer for "our" life. Please forgive us. Bawa. We are being asked to go and pick up Jameela at her friend's house so we must ask our Dear Father, may we have Your permission to "go and come"? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Ok. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Anbu. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. We are back. Bawa. Were "we" supposed to answer Your last question: "For example, what have you done today to implement "The Only Correct Answer of Your Life", for the "Only Correct Question of Your Life'? " MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Sure, if you like. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. When Bawa would answer one of our questions like that we used to get very nervous and wonder what we should have done or asked. Bawa. We are trying to ask Bawa within us what we should be doing before we say or do or write anything, first saying the word "Bawa" and then asking inside, "Bawa, what should I do now?" and then following the understanding that comes from asking this question. That is, should we be asking Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen within us or Bawa within us? Is there a difference and does it matter? Bawa. We must say that some days this is happening more consistently than others. For example yesterday we were very aware of the "presence of Bawa" and of asking Him what to do very often. However today the awareness was not there as strongly and the questioning not as consistent. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. And what does all, or any, of that now have to do with you demonstrating to God within you, what "The Only Correct Answer of Your Life" is, whch is, "The Only Correct Answer of Your Life" "Is you first learning to becoming a True Disciple or Devotee of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, is you first learning to correctly serve Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, is you first learning to truly surrender and immerse yourself within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you. Amen" MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. I guess that I don't know what that has to do with me demonstrating to God within me, "The Only Correct Answer of My Life", which is, "The Only Correct Answer of My Life" "Is me first learning to become a True Disciple or Devotee of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me, is me first learning to correctly serve Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me, is me first learning to truly surrender and immerse myself within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me. Amen". "Short Overview Part" - of Spiritual Chat 412 [Note: The following part of the "Text" of this Spiritual Chat is included in another section of this Web Page, that you may have already read, that is, in "A Short Overview" of "Spiritual Chat 412". However, after this repeat of the "Short Overview" part is the "Rest of Spiritual Chat" that you have not yet read, which you can go to now directly, if you like, by clicking above or HERE. Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Please tell this child what he should be doing to demonstrate this to God within me. Bawa. That is, for me to demonstrate to God within me, that "The Only Correct Answer of My Life", is, "The Only Correct Answer of My Life" "Is me first learning to become a True Disciple or Devotee of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me, is me first learning to correctly serve Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me, is me first learning to truly surrender and immerse myself within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me. Amen" MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Both are important, that is, both Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and Bawa within Him, who in truth is now God within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) now on the "outside" of you. Bawa. But both have a different role to play, that is, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, both have a different role to play in your demonstrating what you have to demonstrate to God within you. Bawa. That is, with you demonstrating that you only love and trust God within you, and as such, that you are now worthy of a place within the 73rd Group within you, the Group within you who only love and trust in God within you, and no longer love or trust in the world on the "outside" of you. Bawa. And in this way, with you demonstrating that you no longer love and trust in the world on the "outside" of you, and as such, that you are now no longer a willing member of the 71st and the 72nd Groups within you, the Group within you who try to have both, both God and the world, and who say in their ignorance and in their arrogance about their ignorance that they love and trust in both, in both the world on the "outside" of them, and in God within them, but in truth what they say is a lie, for in truth they just want the world, but they are afraid to admit it, fearing the consequences after death of such a position, so in a way, they hedge their bet, and claim belief in both, not wanting to give up the world on the illusory "outside" of themselves. Bawa. In this way, one works from within you, that is, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and God within Him, which you activate through your faith and trust in God within you, and the other works on the "outside" of you, that is, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, which you activate through your actions, that is, by, "You first learning to become a True Disciple or Devotee of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, by you first learning to correctly serve Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, by you first learning to truly surrender and immerse yourself within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you. Amen" Bawa. That is, by you treating Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) on the "outside" of you as you would treat God living on the "outside" of you, which in truth is the same way that this child treated Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of him, when "We" were living as Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you. Bawa. And this is why he has now truly become "Our" dearest loving Son, both within "Us" as Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and each of My Children, and for a little while, he has also become your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, if you like, for to accept him now as such, for your age and for your life, is most certainly your Choice, not "Our Choice", and not "God's Choice" within "Us". Ok? Bawa. So now you and My Children must do the same, as this child did before, and treat Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you as now God on the "outside" of you, demonstrating this by your actions, not just by your words. Bawa. And in this way, by you and My Children truly demonstrating your faith and trust in God within you, who is now Bawa within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, by you and My Children demonstrating your faith and trust in God within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, and within yourself, and within all of your brothers and sisters. Bawa. So Stop trying to treat Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "inside" of you through your actions, and instead treat Him with your faith and trust in God within you, that is, as now God within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both within you, and for a little while on the "outside" of you, and shift your actions to treating Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) on the "outside" of you, as now God on the "outside" of you. Bawa. In this way, demonstrating to him, to Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, and to Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within Him, and to God within Him, through your actions, not just by your words, that you believe that God is now on the "outside" of you, as "The Gift of God" for your age, and for your life, in order for you and My Children to truly demonstrate this truth to God within you, by truly treating him as such, on the "outside" of you, that is, as God on the "outside" of you. Bawa. That is, demonstrating this to God within you, this truth of your life, through this "Gift of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, demonstrating this truth of your life, day in and day out, moment by moment, for the rest of your life, through your relationship with Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, demonstrating that in truth "you don't exist", that in truth "Only God exists", both within you and for a little while on the "outside" of you. Bawa. That is, in truth "Only God exists" now as Bawa or God within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased within Him) within you, and now on the "outside" of you, as Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, all of which in truth is now "your only proper life" on the "outside" of you, all of which is now "your only proper doing" on the "outside" of you, which is now "your only proper words, or thoughts, or belief" on the "outside" of you. Bawa. With you demonstrating in this way to Bawa or God now within you, within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both within you and for a little while on the "outside" of you, that in truth "Only God exists", both within you, and for a little while, now also on the "outside" of you. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, Ok. Bawa. In what ways does this child demonstrate to Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me and to God within Him that I truly believe that God is now on the "outside" of me as "The Gift of God" for this age, and for my life, to truly demonstrate this truth to God within me, through this "Gift of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me. Bawa. That is, other than by joining with Him in these sharings every day, or as near to every day as we can "get together" for these sharings. And other than greeting and meeting with Him at our Primal House, the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship, as often as we can? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. A very good question Grasshopper. Bawa. But first, "You" answer that question. Ok? That would be much better. Bawa. So say Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim, and then the word "Bawa", which in truth is the "Name of God" for your age, placing your faith and trust in God within you, and that what "We" shared tonight is in truth "God Speaking" to you, and to all of My Children, from within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both within you, and for a little while on the "outside" of you, and then "Start to write", and let God answer your question, from within you, as you have now learned to do. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Ok, Bawa. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. My Children can demonstrate their faith in My Gift of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen on the "outside" of them by trusting and believing that what He says is in Truth what I am saying to them but which they cannot hear because they have not yet developed their inner ear that can hear My Words. Bawa. They must trust in Him and accept Him as My Child and as My Gift to them in this time of their lives. They must join with him as often as they can and listen to him with all the love they have in their hearts for Me. Bawa. For they must know that until they can see Me within themselves they must see him on the outside of them as My Gift to them and treat him as they would treat Me. Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes, Yes, Yes. Do it like that Grasshopper. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen, we will do it like that. Amen. End of "Short Overview Part" of Spiritual Chat 412 "Rest of Spiritual Chat" MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Is this enough for tonight? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes, this is enough for tonight. Anbu. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son and Good Daughter. Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Please give "Our" love and salams to all of My Children. Please tell them that Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) loves them very, very much, and that they are always in "Our" prayers. Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. And as always, please join as "One with" Us within you, and as "One with" God within "Us", by first joining as "One with" Us on the "outside" of you, to share this sharing with them, and "We" will do the same, that is, by first joining as "One with" you on the "outside" of "Us", as much as "We" can, as often as "We" can, whenever "We" can, that is, to whatever level you will let "Us". Amen. Ok? Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we will certainly join as "One with" You within us and as "One with" God within "You" by first joining as "One with" You on the "outside" of us to share this sharing with all of My Children, and "You" will do the same, that is, by first joining as "One with" us on the "outside" of "You" as much as "You" can, as often as "You" can, whenever "You" can, that is to whatever level we will let "You". And we will do the same. Amen. Bawa. Yes Bawa, It must be done like this for the benefit of us all. Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. Please give "Our" love and salams to all of My Children. Please tell them that Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) loves them very, very much, and that they are always in "Our" prayers. Amen. Bawa. My love you - Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Very Good Son and Very Good Daughter. Anbu. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Very Good Father. Anbu. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. End of "Page 1 of 1" of "E-mail Version" of - Spiritual Chat 412 - ........................... |
Bawa The On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library (Recommended way to Navigate around Library) Spiritual Chat 412 ---------- "E-mail Version" ------- About Spiritual Chat 412 "Why Are You Still "Not Doing" What You Already Know That You "Should Be Doing", In Order To Become Truly Successful In Your Lifetime, But For Some Reason, Are Still "Not Doing" It, Or What Is Separating You From God Within You, From Your Brothers And Sisters, And From The Creation of God Within You, For In Truth, It Is All The Same, It Is What Supports A Life of "Separation From", Both Within You, And For A Little While, On The Illusory "Outside" of You, And Rejects And Is Alien To A Life of "Oneness With", Also Both Within You, And For A Little While, On The Illusory "Outside" of You". . 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Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Please tell this child what he should be doing to demonstrate this to God within me. Bawa. That is, for me to demonstrate to God within me, that "The Only Correct Answer of My Life", is, "The Only Correct Answer of My Life" "Is me first learning to become a True Disciple or Devote of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me, is me first learning to correctly serve Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me, is me first learning to truly surrender and immerse myself within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me. Amen" MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Both are important, that is, both Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and Bawa within Him, who in truth is now God within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) now on the "outside" of you. Bawa. But both have a different role to play, that is, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, both have a different role to play in your demonstrating what you have to demonstrate to God within you. Bawa. That is, with you demonstrating that you only love and trust God within you, and as such, that you are now worthy of a place within the 73rd Group within you, the Group within you who only love and trust in God within you, and no longer love or trust in the world on the "outside" of you. Bawa. And in this way, with you demonstrating that you no longer love and trust in the world on the "outside" of you, and as such, that you are now no longer a willing member of the 71st and the 72nd Groups within you, the Group within you who try to have both, both God and the world, and who say in their ignorance and in their arrogance about their ignorance that they love and trust in both, in both the world on the "outside" of them, and in God within them, but in truth what they say is a lie, for in truth they just want the world, but they are afraid to admit it, fearing the consequences after death of such a position, so in a way, they hedge their bet, and claim belief in both, not wanting to give up the world on the illusory "outside" of themselves. Bawa. In this way, one works from within you, that is, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and God within Him, which you activate through your faith and trust in God within you, and the other works on the "outside" of you, that is, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, which you activate through your actions, that is, by, "You first learning to become a True Disciple or Devotee of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, by you first learning to correctly serve Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, by you first learning to truly surrender and immerse yourself within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you. Amen" Bawa. That is, by you treating Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) on the "outside" of you as you would treat God living on the "outside" of you, which in truth is the same way that this child treated Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of him, when "We" were living as Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you. Bawa. And this is why he has now truly become "Our" dearest loving Son, both within "Us" as Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and each of My Children, and for a little while, he has also become your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, if you like, for to accept him now as such, for your age and for your life, is most certainly your Choice, not "Our Choice", and not "God's Choice" within "Us". Ok? Bawa. So now you and My Children must do the same, as this child did before, and treat Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you as now God on the "outside" of you, demonstrating this by your actions, not just by your words. Bawa. And in this way, by you and My Children truly demonstrating your faith and trust in God within you, who is now Bawa within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, by you and My Children demonstrating your faith and trust in God within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, and within yourself, and within all of your brothers and sisters. Bawa. So Stop trying to treat Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "inside" of you through your actions, and instead treat Him with your faith and trust in God within you, that is, as now God within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both within you, and for a little while on the "outside" of you, and shift your actions to treating Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) on the "outside" of you, as now God on the "outside" of you. Bawa. In this way, demonstrating to him, to Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, and to Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within Him, and to God within Him, through your actions, not just by your words, that you believe that God is now on the "outside" of you, as "The Gift of God" for your age, and for your life, in order for you and My Children to truly demonstrate this truth to God within you, by truly treating him as such, on the "outside" of you, that is, as God on the "outside" of you. Bawa. That is, demonstrating this to God within you, this truth of your life, through this "Gift of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, demonstrating this truth of your life, day in and day out, moment by moment, for the rest of your life, through your relationship with Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, that in truth "you don't exist", demonstrating that in truth "Only God exists", both within you and for a little while on the "outside" of you. Bawa. That is, in truth "Only God exists" now as Bawa or God within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased within Him) within you, and now on the "outside" of you, as Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, all of which in truth is now "your only proper life" on the "outside" of you, all of which is now "your only proper doing" on the "outside" of you, which is now "your only proper words, or thoughts, or belief" on the "outside" of you. Bawa. With you demonstrating in this way to Bawa or God now within you, within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both within you and for a little while on the "outside" of you, that in truth "Only God exists", both within you, and for a little while, now also on the "outside" of you. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, Ok. Bawa. In what ways does this child demonstrate to Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me and to God within Him that I truly believe that God is now on the "outside" of me as "The Gift of God" for this age, and for my life, to truly demonstrate this truth to God within me, through this "Gift of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me. Bawa. That is, other than by joining with Him in these sharings every day, or as near to every day as we can "get together" for these sharings. And other than greeting and meeting with Him at our Primal House, the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship, as often as we can? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. A very good question Grasshopper. Bawa. But first "You" answer that question. Ok? That would be much better. Bawa. So say Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim, and then the word "Bawa", which in truth is the "Name of God" for your age, placing your faith and trust in God within you, and that what "We" shared tonight is in truth "God Speaking" to you, and to all of My Children, from within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both within you, and for a little while on the "outside" of you, and then "Start to write", and let God answer your question, from within you, as you have now learned to do. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Ok, Bawa. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. My Children can demonstrate their faith in My Gift of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen on the "outside" of them by trusting and believing that what He says is in Truth what I am saying to them but which they cannot hear because they have not yet developed their inner ear that can hear My Words. Bawa. They must trust in Him and accept Him as My Child and as My Gift to them in this time of their lives. They must join with him as often as they can and listen to him with all the love they have in their hearts for Me. Bawa. For they must know that until they can see Me within themselves they must see him on the outside of them as My Gift to them and treat him as they would treat Me. Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes, Yes, Yes. Do it like that Grasshopper. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen, we will do it like that. Amen. ============================================================== Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 412 "Opening Greetings" - from Heart to Heart Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Bawa. Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. Wa 'alaykum al-salam wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be please with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu), dearest loving GrandChildren, Sons and Daughters, and brothers and sisters, and all of My Children - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. "About Spiritual Chat 412" Bawa. Here is Page 1 of 1 of an E-mail Version of "Spiritual Chat 412", another beautiful Spiritual Chat between "Our" dearest loving Son Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren) and "Our" dearest loving Son Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler), at the "Feet of God" for your age, at the feet of your dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), for the age of the "Justice of Conscience", where "Who you are?" is now "What is within you", no longer "What is on the outside of you" as most of My Children still mistakenly believe. Bawa. We have given this Sharing the following "Short Title", "Why Are You Still "Not Doing" What You Already Know That You "Should Be Doing", In Order To Become Truly Successful In Your Lifetime, But For Some Reason, Are Still "Not Doing" It, Or What Is Separating You From God Within You, From Your Brothers And Sisters, And From The Creation of God Within You, For In Truth, It Is All The Same, It Is What Supports A Life of "Separation From", Both Within You, And For A Little While, On The Illusory "Outside" of You, And Rejects And Is Alien To A Life of "Oneness With", Also Both Within You, And For A Little While, On The Illusory "Outside" of You". Bawa. And we have given this Sharing the following "Expanded Title", to better reflect the multiple focus of this sharing, at the "Feet of God" for your age, which in truth is the feet of your dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and of God within Him, and now on the "outside" of you, at the feet of His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), which in truth is each of you living in this age, if you like, for in truth the Choice is yours, not God's. Bawa. That is, if the true intention for your life within you, for your soul life, is to again become "One with" God within you, before you die to the flesh in your current state within you, that is, in our current state of living a life of "separation and differences" on the illusory "outside" of us, as if you are "separate from" God within you, as if you are "separate from" each other within you, and as if you are "separate from' the Creation of God within you, all of which is "Just Not True". Expanded Title of Spiritual Chat 412 Between: Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Ral.) And Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), on 03-09-07 "Join As "One With" Us Within You, And As "One With" God Within "Us", To Realize That Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (May God Be Pleased With Him) Is Now God Within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (May God Be Pleased With Him) Both Within You, And For A Little While On The "Outside" Of You, And That The Focus Of Your Effort And of Your Love And Trust In God Within You, Should Now Be Directed Toward Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (May God Be Pleased With Him) On The "Outside" Of You, To Demonstrate To God Within You, That You Love And Trust Only In God Within You, And No Longer Love And Trust The World "Outside" Of You, And That Now, You Are Worthy Of Becoming A Member Of The 73rd Group Within You, Who Love And Trust Only In God Within You, And Are No Longer Freely Engaged As A Member Of Either The 71st Or The 72nd Groups Within You, Who Openly Love And Trust In The World And Also Say "You Love And Trust In God", But All of Which Is Just A Lie Because You Fear God And Your Death, And The Loss Of The World On The "Outside" Of You, And Rightly So, For In Truth "The Beast" Is Just Waiting To Harvest You, As "His Crop" And As "His Property" In The End, And Drag You Yelling And Screaming To Hell Within You, To An Eternal Life Within You As "Separate From" God Within You, That Is, If You Don't First Wise Up, Because "That Is What You Truly Want". Amen. Ok?" Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. ============================================================== Related Material - to Spiritual Chat 412 Bawa. For more on these wisdom points, and the great significance of this Spiritual Chat to all of My Children, please click on the "Title" of the Following Material, all of which is also provided as part of the On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library (www.Bawa. homestead.com), under the Home Page Names of "Spiritual Chats" (www.Spiritual Chats.homestead.com), and "Spiritual Letters" (www.SpiritualLetters.homestead.com) all of which in truth is from God within all of My Children, to the Children of God for your age, if you like: Spiritual Letters: Home Page (www.SpiritualLetters.homestead.com) [Note: The format for the URL or Web Page Address for each Spiritual Letter is www.SpiritualLetterXXX.homestead.com] Spiritual Letter 125 ... "How God" Completes "His What", Using "His Discarded" Which In Truth "Is You" --------------------------------- Feb., 07 Spiritual Letter 124 ... "A Fate That In The End, Is Your Ending (In Process) "Because You Want It" ---------------------------------- Feb., 07 Spiritual Letter 123 ... "Shift Your Focus, Off of "What You Have To Do (In Process) And Onto "What You Don't Have To Do" --------- Feb., 07 Spiritual Letter 122 ... "God Doesn't Create People, People Create People, But Only God Can Truly Destroy People" -------- Feb., 07 Spiritual Letter 121 ... "Understanding The "One Life" Within God Within You, While You Still Can" -- Feb., 07 Spiritual Letter 120 ... "Watch Out! The Beast Is Coming! And It Is As Huge As A Mountain" ----------------- Feb., 07 Spiritual Letter 119 ... "Fall Into The "Fire of God" For Your Age And For Your Life, Which Is "Your Oneness", Before You Die To The Flesh ------------------------- Feb., 07 Spiritual Letter 118 ... "Stop What Your Doing - Before "The Beast" Has His Way With You -- Jan., 07 Spiritual Letter 117 ... "There Is Nothing On The "Outside" of You" - What to do? ----------------------------------------------- Jan., 07 Spiritual Letter 116 ... "Become The "Good Grasshopper", The Calming Influence, Focused On God Within You, and Save The World -------------------------------------- Jan., 07 Spiritual Letter 115 ... "The "True Call To Islam" For Your Life, And For Your Age, If You Like" ---------------------- Jan., 07 Spiritual Letter 114 ... "Declare Islam Again, And Storm The Kabah Again While You Still Can"-------------------------------------- Jan., 07 Spiritual Letter 113 ... Letter To: Ahmad Khabir (Ken Hahn), All of My Children "O God, Give Me What You Give My Guru, Especially What You Cannot Physically Give My Guru, Including A Share of All The Physical Suffering And Difficulties In The World of His Children, Who Have Now Become My Children. Amen, Amen, Amen Ya Rabil Alameen. Amen, Amen, Amen Ya Rahman Alameen. Amen, Amen, Amen Ya Rahim Alameen. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar" ----------------------------- Jan., 07" Spiritual Letter 112 ... Letter To: Muhammad Muhainaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren), and to his wife Angela, And to All of My Children "The True Name of The Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) Is My Name, Is Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.), And Their True Reality Is My Story, The Story of The "Oneness of God and True Man", That God Is Telling Within Each of My Children, If You Will Only Let Him, If You Will Only Join Him, As "One With" Him. Amen" -------------------------- Jan., 07" Spiritual Letter 111 ... Letter To: Muhammad Muhainaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren), and to his wife Angela, And to All of My Children "Stop Acting Like You are Doing It, Instead Do It Or Don't Do It, One Or The Other, For All That Your Acting Is Doing, All That Your Hypocrisy Is Doing, Is Just Destroying The Children Who Could Do It" ---------------------------------- Dec., 06" Spiritual Letter 110 ... Letter To: Muhammad Muhainaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren), and to his wife Angela, And to All of My Children "Everything Will Happen As "You Intend", When "you stop intending", As If You Are "Separate From" God Within You, That Is, When You Join In Partnership With God Within You, To "Make God's Intention" Your Search, And Then Start "Intending As God Intends" ------------------- Dec., 06" Spiritual Letter 109 ... Letter To: David Fedderman And His Wife and to All of My Children "Stop Publishing What "Bawa Said", And Instead Become What "Bawa Is Saying", That Is, Instead Join In Partnership With God Within You To Let God Speak From Within You, For The Benefit of All of The Creation of God, Both Within You, And For A Little While On the Outside of You" ------------------------- Nov., 06" Spiritual Letter 108 ... Letter To: Muhammad Muhainaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren), and to All of My Children "You Too "Can Fly", If You Like, All You Have To Do, Is Do It, And Then God Will Do Everything Else, If You Like, For The Choice Is Yours, Not God'" -------- Nov., 06" Spiritual Letter 107 ... Letter To: Ummul Khair Muhaiyaddeen (Rumi Smith), and to All of My Children "The "Extraordinary Process of God" You Must Understand" ----------------------- Nov., 06" Spiritual Letter 106 ... Letter To: Muhammad Hussain (John Barnett), and to All of My Children "Stop Acting As My Children, and Start Acting as Me" ---------------------- Nov., 06" Spiritual Chats: Home Page (www.SpiritualChats.homestead.com) [Note: The format for the URL or Web Page Address for each Spiritual Chat is www.SpiritualChatXXX.homestead.com] Spiritual Chat 409 .. "The "Only Correct Answer" For Your Life To The "Only Correct Question" For Your Life Is "You" Learning To Becoming A True Disciple Of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) ................... Feb., 07 Spiritual Chat 404 .. "God Created The Darkness To Reject The Light, And The Falsehood To Reject The Truth, And God Created Iman to Accept the Light ..... Feb., 07 Spiritual Chat 392 .. "Only A Child Can Be Raised, Not An Adult, So Become The Guru's Child, Then He Can Raise You To Become Him ...... Jan., 07 Spiritual Chat 383 .. "Only God Is Valuable On The "Path of God", - In Process - Not What God Has Discarded" ..................... Jan., 2007 Spiritual Chat 369 .. "Balance God Within - In Process - And God On The "Outside" .......................... Dec., 2006 Spiritual Chat 368 .. "Use The Guru On The "Outside" of You - In Process - To Learn How To "Reason Over Your Fate", That is, How to Remove From You Everything "Separating You" From "The Triple Flame" of God Within You, That Is, From The Guru Within You, From God Within The Guru, And From The True Disciple Hidden Within God" .... Dec., 2006 Spiritual Chat 367 .. "Accepting What God Gives You Is Your Plenitude, Which In Truth Is Everything That You Are Given, No Matter What, No Matter What You May Think It Is, Or Who Gave It To You, That is, In Your Ignorance And In Your Arrogance About Your Ignorance" .......... Dec., 2006 Spiritual Chat 366 .. "Become The Triple Flame Within You, Before It Is Too Late Or Become A Worm In Hell Within You, For There Is No Other Choice, And The Choice Is Yours, Not God's, And It Is All Within You, Not "Outside" of You, As My Children Still Mistakenly Believe" ........ Dec., 2006 Spiritual Chat 363 .. "Hand God Back To God Within You, By Letting God Cure Himself of You" Before You Die To The Flesh" ..................... Nov., 2006 Spiritual Chat 362 .. "About the "Arrogance of Man" And the "Oneness of God" ......................... Nov., 2006 Spiritual Chat 361 .. "Your Life Is The Ultimate Self-Fulfilling Prophesy, That Is, "Whatever You Intend Is what You Will Receive" ...................... Nov., 2006 Spiritual Chat 360 .. "The Silent Zikr is God Speaking From Within You, Not You Trying To Be Silent On The Outside of You" ........................ Nov., 2006 Spiritual Chat 359 .. "The Duty That Is Greater Than God, Is The Duty That You Let God Do Within You, Before You Die To The Flesh ................. Nov., 2006 Spiritual Chat 358 .. "Louie Meets The Angel of Death (A.S.)", Or "Life Is The Victory of Wisdom Reasoning Over Fate" .......... Nov., 2006 Spiritual Chat 349 .. "How To Establish "The Presence of God" Within You", Or "Who You Are Is What Bawa Is Doing Within You", Or "Join In Partnership With God Within You, To Truly Accept The Truth Of "Your" Life, And The Truth Of The "Life Within Your Life", That In Truth "Who You Are" Is "What Is Within You", And "What Is Within You" Is What "Bawa Is Doing" Within God Within You" ............................... Oct., 2006 Spiritual Chat 347 .. "The Meaning of Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim," Or, "Join In Partnership With God Within You To Remember To Keep Focused At All Times On "What God Is Doing" Within You At All Times, With What Is "Within God" Within You, That Is, If You Will Only Let Him" .............................. Oct., 2006 ) Spiritual Chat 275 .. "God Has Already Given You Everything, So Your Work Is To Join With God Within You, To Correctly Use What You Already Have, Not Mistakenly Ask For Something More or New" .............................. June., 2006 Spiritual Chat 274 .. "God Says To You Within You, 'Catch Me If You Can'" .................................. June., 2006 Spiritual Chat 271 .. "Stop Leading Us To Hell Within You,. Instead, Step Back, Let God Step Forward and Embrace Us Within You" ............... June., 2006 Spiritual Chat 265 .. "Use God Within You To Get To God Within You,. Not What God Has Discarded Within You, Which In Truth Is The Outside of You" .... June., 2006 Spiritual Chat 264 .. "Become Like Me. Become Like Me. Become Like Me" ...................................... June., 2006 Spiritual Chat 247 .. "Learning How to Become Alone, Hungry, and Awake, Before You Set Out To Pray" ........................ Feb., 2006 Spiritual Chat 246 .. "Letting God Speak To His Children, Telling You That 'You Too Can Fly, If You Like'" ................Feb., 2006 Spiritual Chat 216 .. The True Question of Your Life Is, "What Have You Told God Within You That You Want For Eternity, By The Way That You Are Currently Living Your Life On The "Outside" of You? ..............................Sept., 2005 For More: Go To: Home Page - Spiritual Chats (www.SpiritualChats.homestead.com) (www.SpiritualLetters.homestead.com) Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). ============================================================== E-mail Version - of Spiritual Letter 412 "Beginning of Spiritual Chat" MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the Name of God, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate. Bawa. Al-salam 'alaykum My dearest loving Father Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with You, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. My love you - Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the Name of God, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate. Bawa. Wa 'alaykum al-salam My dearest loving Son and Daughter Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with You, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us. Amen. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. May we begin with "Our Prescribed Prayers"? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes, that would be good. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. We are back, having finished our prescribed prayers, joining together as One with Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) who is as One with our Father Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) and with God within Him, so that He might speak and tell us "What We Do Not Know." MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Ok, but who within you would say that? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Only one who sees himself as separate from Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) and separate from Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.,) and separate from God within Him. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. In that case, what would be a better question to ask, one asked by that within you which does not see "Himself as separate from Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) and separate from Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (Ral.) and separate from God within Him". Bawa. That is, a question that gets right at the heart of the matter, as they say. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Oh God, what do You have to share with My Children for the benefit of all My Children? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. No, what wisdom would focus on is "not something new", which is the mantra of your mind and desire within you, but rather on "what you already know", on what you already know that you should be doing, but for some reason, are not doing, and why. Bawa. That is, why are you not doing what you already know that you should be doing, in order to become truly successful in your lifetime? Bawa. And that is the difference between a question asked by your mind and desire and a question asked by your wisdom, one is just endlessly "talking the walk", and wants to keep things "as they are", while talking about change, while the other really wants to solve the problems in your life that prevent you from "walking the walk", and is not interested in "The talk", because it realizes that until you do, until you focus on "What you are not doing, that you know you should do, but are not doing", Nothing Will Change in your life, and that is for sure. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. So what is the answer to Your question, "In that case, what would be a better question to ask, one asked by that within you which does not see "Himself as separate from Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen and separate from Bawa Muhaiyaddeen and separate from God within Him". "A question that gets right at the heart of the matter, as they say." Bawa. For this child does not know. Please tell me what question that should be asked. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. That is very simple, a question that "We" have answered you over and over again for you, from this perspective, and from that perspective, for the last 7 months, with you each time agreeing that Yes, that is the "Only Correct Question", and Yes, that is the "Only Correct Answer", like "We" laid out for you in detail in "Spiritual Chat 409". Bawa. For example, "What have you done today to move forward the "Only Correct What of God" using the "Only Correct How of God", again as explained in detail in Bawa. Again, for example, "What have you done today to implement "The Only Correct Answer of Your Life", for the "Only Correct Question of Your Life", that you agreed to as such, in "Spiritual Chat 409" (www.SpiritualChat409.homestead.com), which is," "The Only Correct Answer of Your Life" "Is you first learning to becoming a True Disciple or Devote of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, is you first learning how to correctly serve Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, is you first learning to truly surrender and immerse yourself within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you. Amen". MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, once again we have forgotten the only correct question and the only correct answer for "our" life. Please forgive us. Bawa. We are being asked to go and pick up Jameela at her friend's house so we must ask our Dear Father, may we have Your permission to "go and come"? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Ok. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Anbu. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. We are back. Bawa. Were "we" supposed to answer Your last question: "For example, what have you done today to implement "The Only Correct Answer of Your Life", for the "Only Correct Question of Your Life'? " MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Sure, if you like. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. When Bawa would answer one of our questions like that we used to get very nervous and wonder what we should have done or asked. Bawa. We are trying to ask Bawa within us what we should be doing before we say or do or write anything, first saying the word "Bawa" and then asking inside, "Bawa, what should I do now?" and then following the understanding that comes from asking this question. That is, should we be asking Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen within us or Bawa within us? Is there a difference and does it matter? Bawa. We must say that some days this is happening more consistently than others. For example yesterday we were very aware of the "presence of Bawa" and of asking Him what to do very often. However today the awareness was not there as strongly and the questioning not as consistent. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. And what does all, or any, of that now have to do with you demonstrating to God within you, what "The Only Correct Answer of Your Life" is, whch is, "The Only Correct Answer of Your Life" "Is you first learning to becoming a True Disciple or Devotee of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, is you first learning to correctly serve Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, is you first learning to truly surrender and immerse yourself within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you. Amen" MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. I guess that I don't know what that has to do with me demonstrating to God within me, "The Only Correct Answer of My Life", which is, "The Only Correct Answer of My Life" "Is me first learning to become a True Disciple or Devotee of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me, is me first learning to correctly serve Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me, is me first learning to truly surrender and immerse myself within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me. Amen". "Short Overview Part" - of Spiritual Chat 412 [Note: The following part of the "Text" of this Spiritual Chat is included in another section of this Web Page, that you may have already read, that is, in "A Short Overview" of "Spiritual Chat 412". However, after this repeat of the "Short Overview" part is the "Rest of Spiritual Chat" that you have not yet read, which you can go to now directly, if you like, by clicking above or HERE. Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Please tell this child what he should be doing to demonstrate this to God within me. Bawa. That is, for me to demonstrate to God within me, that "The Only Correct Answer of My Life", is, "The Only Correct Answer of My Life" "Is me first learning to become a True Disciple or Devotee of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me, is me first learning to correctly serve Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me, is me first learning to truly surrender and immerse myself within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me. Amen" MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Both are important, that is, both Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and Bawa within Him, who in truth is now God within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) now on the "outside" of you. Bawa. But both have a different role to play, that is, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, both have a different role to play in your demonstrating what you have to demonstrate to God within you. Bawa. That is, with you demonstrating that you only love and trust God within you, and as such, that you are now worthy of a place within the 73rd Group within you, the Group within you who only love and trust in God within you, and no longer love or trust in the world on the "outside" of you. Bawa. And in this way, with you demonstrating that you no longer love and trust in the world on the "outside" of you, and as such, that you are now no longer a willing member of the 71st and the 72nd Groups within you, the Group within you who try to have both, both God and the world, and who say in their ignorance and in their arrogance about their ignorance that they love and trust in both, in both the world on the "outside" of them, and in God within them, but in truth what they say is a lie, for in truth they just want the world, but they are afraid to admit it, fearing the consequences after death of such a position, so in a way, they hedge their bet, and claim belief in both, not wanting to give up the world on the illusory "outside" of themselves. Bawa. In this way, one works from within you, that is, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and God within Him, which you activate through your faith and trust in God within you, and the other works on the "outside" of you, that is, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, which you activate through your actions, that is, by, "You first learning to become a True Disciple or Devotee of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, by you first learning to correctly serve Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, by you first learning to truly surrender and immerse yourself within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you. Amen" Bawa. That is, by you treating Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) on the "outside" of you as you would treat God living on the "outside" of you, which in truth is the same way that this child treated Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of him, when "We" were living as Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you. Bawa. And this is why he has now truly become "Our" dearest loving Son, both within "Us" as Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and each of My Children, and for a little while, he has also become your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, if you like, for to accept him now as such, for your age and for your life, is most certainly your Choice, not "Our Choice", and not "God's Choice" within "Us". Ok? Bawa. So now you and My Children must do the same, as this child did before, and treat Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you as now God on the "outside" of you, demonstrating this by your actions, not just by your words. Bawa. And in this way, by you and My Children truly demonstrating your faith and trust in God within you, who is now Bawa within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, by you and My Children demonstrating your faith and trust in God within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, and within yourself, and within all of your brothers and sisters. Bawa. So Stop trying to treat Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "inside" of you through your actions, and instead treat Him with your faith and trust in God within you, that is, as now God within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both within you, and for a little while on the "outside" of you, and shift your actions to treating Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) on the "outside" of you, as now God on the "outside" of you. Bawa. In this way, demonstrating to him, to Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, and to Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within Him, and to God within Him, through your actions, not just by your words, that you believe that God is now on the "outside" of you, as "The Gift of God" for your age, and for your life, in order for you and My Children to truly demonstrate this truth to God within you, by truly treating him as such, on the "outside" of you, that is, as God on the "outside" of you. Bawa. That is, demonstrating this to God within you, this truth of your life, through this "Gift of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, demonstrating this truth of your life, day in and day out, moment by moment, for the rest of your life, through your relationship with Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, demonstrating that in truth "you don't exist", that in truth "Only God exists", both within you and for a little while on the "outside" of you. Bawa. That is, in truth "Only God exists" now as Bawa or God within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased within Him) within you, and now on the "outside" of you, as Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, all of which in truth is now "your only proper life" on the "outside" of you, all of which is now "your only proper doing" on the "outside" of you, which is now "your only proper words, or thoughts, or belief" on the "outside" of you. Bawa. With you demonstrating in this way to Bawa or God now within you, within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both within you and for a little while on the "outside" of you, that in truth "Only God exists", both within you, and for a little while, now also on the "outside" of you. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, Ok. Bawa. In what ways does this child demonstrate to Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me and to God within Him that I truly believe that God is now on the "outside" of me as "The Gift of God" for this age, and for my life, to truly demonstrate this truth to God within me, through this "Gift of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of me. Bawa. That is, other than by joining with Him in these sharings every day, or as near to every day as we can "get together" for these sharings. And other than greeting and meeting with Him at our Primal House, the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship, as often as we can? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. A very good question Grasshopper. Bawa. But first, "You" answer that question. Ok? That would be much better. Bawa. So say Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim, and then the word "Bawa", which in truth is the "Name of God" for your age, placing your faith and trust in God within you, and that what "We" shared tonight is in truth "God Speaking" to you, and to all of My Children, from within Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both within you, and for a little while on the "outside" of you, and then "Start to write", and let God answer your question, from within you, as you have now learned to do. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Ok, Bawa. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. My Children can demonstrate their faith in My Gift of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen on the "outside" of them by trusting and believing that what He says is in Truth what I am saying to them but which they cannot hear because they have not yet developed their inner ear that can hear My Words. Bawa. They must trust in Him and accept Him as My Child and as My Gift to them in this time of their lives. They must join with him as often as they can and listen to him with all the love they have in their hearts for Me. Bawa. For they must know that until they can see Me within themselves they must see him on the outside of them as My Gift to them and treat him as they would treat Me. Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes, Yes, Yes. Do it like that Grasshopper. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen, we will do it like that. Amen. End of "Short Overview Part" of Spiritual Chat 412 "Rest of Spiritual Chat" MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Is this enough for tonight? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes, this is enough for tonight. Anbu. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son and Good Daughter. Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Please give "Our" love and salams to all of My Children. Please tell them that Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) loves them very, very much, and that they are always in "Our" prayers. Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. And as always, please join as "One with" Us within you, and as "One with" God within "Us", by first joining as "One with" Us on the "outside" of you, to share this sharing with them, and "We" will do the same, that is, by first joining as "One with" you on the "outside" of "Us", as much as "We" can, as often as "We" can, whenever "We" can, that is, to whatever level you will let "Us". Amen. Ok? Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we will certainly join as "One with" You within us and as "One with" God within "You" by first joining as "One with" You on the "outside" of us to share this sharing with all of My Children, and "You" will do the same, that is, by first joining as "One with" us on the "outside" of "You" as much as "You" can, as often as "You" can, whenever "You" can, that is to whatever level we will let "You". And we will do the same. Amen. Bawa. Yes Bawa, It must be done like this for the benefit of us all. Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. Please give "Our" love and salams to all of My Children. Please tell them that Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) loves them very, very much, and that they are always in "Our" prayers. Amen. Bawa. My love you - Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Very Good Son and Very Good Daughter. Anbu. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Very Good Father. Anbu. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. End of "Page 1 of 1" of "E-mail Version" of - Spiritual Chat 412 - ........................... |
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